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		<title>Does Dave Winer really want a RSS-based social web?</title>
		<link>https://andysylvester.com/2025/12/16/does-dave-winer-really-want-a-rss-based-social-web/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2025 19:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am sorry to have to continue this thread, but there are more developments to assess. In a followup, Dave Winer shares he does not get much in the way of views of his content on Twitter. He then tells Ben Werdmuller (and the rest of us) that &#8220;we have to create our own social [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">I am sorry to have to continue this thread, but there are more developments to assess. In a followup, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:oety7qbfx7x6exn2ytrwikmr/post/3ma3xjpzmos2z">Dave Winer shares</a> he does not get much in the way of views of his content on Twitter. He <a href="http://scripting.com/2025/12/16/124557.html#a124658">then tells</a> Ben Werdmuller (and the rest of us) that &#8220;we have to create our own social web&#8221;.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Well, there&#8217;s the rub, isn&#8217;t it! If someone wants to have a social web based on RSS, they are going to have to create it themselves, instead of trying to <a href="https://www.thebalancemoney.com/the-meaning-of-odd-business-phrases-boil-the-ocean-2276187">&#8220;boil the ocean&#8221;</a> and get every other social network software platform to add features to use RSS as the transport mechanism for social network applications. Then, they are going to have to <strong>convince other people to use it</strong> instead of existing social network software.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">From the <a href="https://joinmastodon.org/about">Mastodon About </a>page, Eugen Rochko created Mastodon in 2016 because he was &#8220;dissatisfied with the state and direction of Twitter&#8221;. That was 9 years ago! Mastodon as an application has taken a long time to reach the position it holds today. rssCloud has been supported in Dave Winer&#8217;s blogging tools since 2001, and rssCloud support was added to WordPress in 2009 (<a href="https://andysylvester.com/2022/12/22/rsscloud-wordpress-feedland-and-dave-winer/">see reference here</a>), but there has been almost no uptake of rssCloud as a basis for blogging or social network tools. Perhaps part of the reason why is how Dave Winer responds to negative feedback on his tools in a negative way (examples: <a href="https://andysylvester.com/2022/12/22/rsscloud-wordpress-feedland-and-dave-winer/">Feedland</a> and <a href="https://andysylvester.com/2022/03/18/my-impressions-of-the-current-state-of-drummer/">Drummer</a>).</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">I <a href="https://andysylvester.com/2025/03/07/what-should-a-social-network-have/">have described</a> what a social network should have, and that definition covers all current social networking applications. Dave Winer gave his own description of a RSS-based Twitter app in January 2025, and it matches up pretty well with the app I developed, My Status Tool (<a href="https://andy.mystatustool.com/">demo version</a>, <a href="https://github.com/andysylvester/MyStatusTool">repo for code</a>). I also created a portal site for RSS-based apps for social networking (<a href="https://feednetwork.social/">The Feed Network</a>), so there is a place for people to get started (but I do not see it as my mission to try to evangelize this area). Dave has talked about what his <a href="http://scripting.com/2025/09/22/214200.html">new vision</a> would be using WordLand (September 2025), but this &#8220;new vision&#8221; is nowhere to be seen. <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FZNYXKHwNw">Show us the beef</a>!</p>



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		<title>Taking another look at social networks and RSS</title>
		<link>https://andysylvester.com/2025/08/18/taking-another-look-at-social-networks-and-rss/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2025 02:44:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Today, Dave Winer wrote &#8220;What if you made a social network out of RSS?&#8221;. He then basically described a feed reader interface, and used examples from Bluesky and Twitter. However, I think that an important point of what people think of as &#8220;social networks&#8221; was overlooked or omitted. If you look at the Bluesky/Twitter examples, [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Today, Dave Winer <a href="http://scripting.com/2025/08/18.html#a132442">wrote </a>&#8220;What if you made a social network out of RSS?&#8221;. He then basically described a feed reader interface, and used examples from <a href="https://imgs.scripting.com/2025/08/18/timelinesnapshot.png">Bluesky </a>and <a href="https://imgs.scripting.com/2025/08/18/timelinetwitter.png">Twitter</a>. However, I think that an important point of what people think of as &#8220;social networks&#8221; was overlooked or omitted. If you look at the Bluesky/Twitter examples, you can see that someone posts, and then replies are shown. I do not think that the &#8220;timeline viewer&#8221; that Dave Winer is &#8220;<a href="http://scripting.com/2025/08/17.html#a143233">teasing</a>&#8221; in recent posts is going to show or allow replies. The development of <a href="https://wordland.social/">WordLand </a>and its <a href="https://github.com/scotthansonde/wordlandBaseline">Baseline </a>theme does not support comments or replies.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">During the development of <a href="https://github.com/andysylvester/MyStatusTool">MyStatusTool</a>, my collaborator Colin Walker <a href="https://github.com/colin-walker/mst-namespace">proposed a namespace</a> to allow replies via RSS. Perhaps this could be a stepping stone to supporting replies, and therefore conversations, via RSS. Just having a feed reader isn&#8217;t having a conversation, and isn&#8217;t particularly social. For other tools in this space, see my site <a href="https://feednetwork.social/">The Feed Network</a>. </p>
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		<title>Use case: linkblogging from your phone</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2025 14:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I use my RSS reading app to graze stories from the feeds I am following. After scrolling through the list, I have a set of browser tabs open to read. After reading, usually I have several tabs (or perhaps a lot of tabs) for which I would like to save the links. Many times in [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">I use my <a href="https://readinglist.andysylvester.com/">RSS reading app</a> to graze stories from the feeds I am following. After scrolling through the list, I have a set of browser tabs open to read. After reading, usually I have several tabs (or perhaps a lot of tabs) for which I would like to save the links. Many times in the past, I have copied them to a &#8220;link dump&#8221; file. However, another approach is to use a linkblogging tool to capture the links.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">My tool of choice in this situation is <a href="https://github.com/andysylvester/MyStatusTool">MyStatusTool </a>(my live version <a href="https://andy.mystatustool.com/">is here</a>). Here is a screenshot from my phone browser:</p>


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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The area above the &#8220;post your update&#8221; button is the text area to enter a post. MyStatusTool uses the <a href="https://yabwe.github.io/medium-editor/">medium-editor</a> toolbar to make it easy to add a link. The most difficult thing is to select the link text and get the medium-editor toolbar to appear (usually I double-tap the text). It is also best to only link to a single word (again, selecting several words as the link text can be difficult). The tool also creates a <a href="https://andy.mystatustool.com/userposts">view of user posts</a>, so you can review just your posts and not all of the content from subscribed feeds.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">If anyone is interested in installing MyStatusTool, let me know! More information is available at <a href="https://feednetwork.social/">The Feed Network</a>.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2025 16:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Here is a demo version of MyStatusTool (one of the tools in The Feed Network tool catalog) &#8211; take a look and let me know if anyone is interested in setting up a demo!]]></description>
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Here is a <a href="https://john.mystatustool.com/">demo version</a> of <a href="https://github.com/andysylvester/MyStatusTool">MyStatusTool </a>(one of the tools in The Feed Network <a href="https://feednetwork.social/tools/">tool catalog</a>) &#8211; take a look and let me know if anyone is interested in setting up a demo!</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2025 16:47:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Meanwhile, the tools of The Feed Network are there for people to set up their own social networks with real-time notification. If anyone needs help with setup, let me know!]]></description>
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Meanwhile, the tools of <a href="https://feednetwork.social/">The Feed Network</a> are there for people to set up their own social networks with real-time notification. If anyone needs help with setup, let me know!</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2025 23:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#8217;s great that someone wants to build an open social web on WordPress, but there is already an open social web that uses WordPress &#8211; The Feed Network!]]></description>
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">It&#8217;s great that <a href="http://scripting.com/2025/06/06/225808.html#a225833">someone wants</a> to build an open social web on <a href="https://wordpress.org/">WordPress</a>, but there is already an open social web that uses WordPress &#8211; <a href="https://feednetwork.social/">The Feed Network</a>!</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2025 23:33:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#8217;s great that someone wants to build a social web network around RSS, but it already exists &#8211; The Feed Network!]]></description>
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">It&#8217;s great that <a href="http://scripting.com/2025/05/31.html#a155634">someone wants</a> to build a social web network around RSS, but it already exists &#8211; <a href="https://feednetwork.social/">The Feed Network</a>! </p>
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		<title>Announcing &#8211; The Feed Network</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2025 19:33:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In recent posts, I have been giving updates on my work to set up a feed-based social network using rssCloud as the notification protocol. The initial site to support this is now complete &#8211; The Feed Network at https://FeedNetwork.Social. The site has a page on how to get started, a set of questions and answers, [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><a href="https://andysylvester.com/2025/03/07/what-should-a-social-network-have/">In</a> <a href="https://andysylvester.com/2025/04/05/taking-steps-to-build-a-feed-based-social-network/">recent</a> <a href="https://andysylvester.com/2025/04/19/updates-on-building-a-feed-based-social-network/">posts</a>, I have been giving updates on my work to set up a feed-based social network using <a href="http://home.rsscloud.co/">rssCloud </a>as the notification protocol. The initial site to support this is now complete &#8211; <a href="https://feednetwork.social/">The Feed Network</a> at <a href="https://FeedNetwork.Social">https://FeedNetwork.Social</a>.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The site has a page on how to get started, a set of questions and answers, and a tool catalog listing the tools that support rssCloud. This is an effort to show that other technologies exist that can create the foundation of a social network.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">For more info, go to <a href="https://feednetwork.social/">The Feed Network</a>, or check out our <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZWP2mLD0Zc">introductory video</a>, or follow our <a href="https://feednetwork.social/blog/index.xml">blog feed</a> for updates!</p>



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